Dhundhun
06-23 05:18 PM
People,
I am preparing an article for NY times explaining our sufferings! Please contribute your thoughts.
1. What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
2. How people who have green cards are contributing to the country as a whole ?
3. What if the whole green card process takes less than 3 years ?
Few obvious things are we would have bought a house, gone up in our carrier ladder, spend more and contribute to the economy, our spouse could have started working etc....
I am looking for thoughts and experience other than the above things.
USA is made by illegal immigrants (over 13 millions) and bonded labors (H1B - GC).
Losses suffered by illegal immigrants and H1B-GC people fuels US economy (or at least contributes to that). My contributions so far might have been above half a millions. Indirect beneficiaris are top most companies.
You may get some valuable inputs from http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19766 although I did not fully endorse the thread:
Good observation.
It will be breaking more than making - it will be like this news: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Is_Hindu_marriage_law_breaking_homes/articleshow/3154827.cms
America is not loosing by delaying any process of streamlining any illegal immigrants or H1B-GC process.
I am preparing an article for NY times explaining our sufferings! Please contribute your thoughts.
1. What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
2. How people who have green cards are contributing to the country as a whole ?
3. What if the whole green card process takes less than 3 years ?
Few obvious things are we would have bought a house, gone up in our carrier ladder, spend more and contribute to the economy, our spouse could have started working etc....
I am looking for thoughts and experience other than the above things.
USA is made by illegal immigrants (over 13 millions) and bonded labors (H1B - GC).
Losses suffered by illegal immigrants and H1B-GC people fuels US economy (or at least contributes to that). My contributions so far might have been above half a millions. Indirect beneficiaris are top most companies.
You may get some valuable inputs from http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19766 although I did not fully endorse the thread:
Good observation.
It will be breaking more than making - it will be like this news: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Is_Hindu_marriage_law_breaking_homes/articleshow/3154827.cms
America is not loosing by delaying any process of streamlining any illegal immigrants or H1B-GC process.
Libra
09-10 07:47 PM
thanks cirigadi, gctoget, rajamanikannan, hemants for your contribution. please attend rally too, we need to show big numbers at rally.
Canadian_Dream
06-02 08:18 PM
You are correct, it only uses I-140 application as a basis of setting the cut-off (Not I-485).
In my opinion:
Date of Introduction: May 15 2007
Effective Date: Oct 01 2008
Scenarios:
Scenario 1: I-140 Filed after Introduction and Approved before effective date. These cases are eligible for Immigrant Visa, whenever available.
Scenario 2: I-140 Filed after Introduction and not approved on the effective date. These cases have to refile.
Scenario 3: I-140 Filed before Introduction and not approved on the effective date. These cases are eligible for Immigrant Visa, whenever available.
Scenario 4: I-140 not filed becasue of backlogged labor. They retain the priority date but have to restart in the new system, whatever that means.
Only bad scenario is 2 and 4. The other bad aspect is reduced supply of immigrant visa 90,000.
Hey Canadian Dream:
I know things might change , i wish this law doesnt pass through at all. But in its form this is interpretation of major members and attorneys in current stage. Please correct me if i am wrong.
I might agree with your conclusion of start date, but Now coming to to cases :
Petetion for an employment based visa = I 140 , that were filed prior to the date of intro ( for our sake its Oct 2008 or May 15 2007 ) that were pending or approved , shall be treated as if such provision remained effective.
An approved petition may server as basis for issuance of an immigrant visa.
and for all people who are still in Labor stage will preserve their priority date.
Now based on this , if you have filed an I140 before the date of enactment what ever it might one should be fine. Once dates becomes current and I140 approved one can file for 485 in previous system.
I dont see any conclusion based on 485 is approved or not its just adjustment of status once PD become current , i think its all 140 that determines you are approved as an immigrant or not.
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40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
In my opinion:
Date of Introduction: May 15 2007
Effective Date: Oct 01 2008
Scenarios:
Scenario 1: I-140 Filed after Introduction and Approved before effective date. These cases are eligible for Immigrant Visa, whenever available.
Scenario 2: I-140 Filed after Introduction and not approved on the effective date. These cases have to refile.
Scenario 3: I-140 Filed before Introduction and not approved on the effective date. These cases are eligible for Immigrant Visa, whenever available.
Scenario 4: I-140 not filed becasue of backlogged labor. They retain the priority date but have to restart in the new system, whatever that means.
Only bad scenario is 2 and 4. The other bad aspect is reduced supply of immigrant visa 90,000.
Hey Canadian Dream:
I know things might change , i wish this law doesnt pass through at all. But in its form this is interpretation of major members and attorneys in current stage. Please correct me if i am wrong.
I might agree with your conclusion of start date, but Now coming to to cases :
Petetion for an employment based visa = I 140 , that were filed prior to the date of intro ( for our sake its Oct 2008 or May 15 2007 ) that were pending or approved , shall be treated as if such provision remained effective.
An approved petition may server as basis for issuance of an immigrant visa.
and for all people who are still in Labor stage will preserve their priority date.
Now based on this , if you have filed an I140 before the date of enactment what ever it might one should be fine. Once dates becomes current and I140 approved one can file for 485 in previous system.
I dont see any conclusion based on 485 is approved or not its just adjustment of status once PD become current , i think its all 140 that determines you are approved as an immigrant or not.
===========================
40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
ramus
09-09 09:49 AM
Thanks for both, contributon and coming to rally....
My Contribution of $100 sent in today by Google. Will be attending the 18th Rally.
C U Guys!.
My Contribution of $100 sent in today by Google. Will be attending the 18th Rally.
C U Guys!.
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malaGCPahije
10-17 10:07 AM
Everyone who contributed to this have done a great job. Hopefully USCIS takes a note of this and rectifies their process in the future. I will send the letters soon. Thanks to each one of you for the efforts.
neoklaus
01-29 06:56 PM
Applied for AP - Aug.16 with NSC
The funny thing is,that as with EAD card,in a day after I subscribed for e-mail update with USCIS they send me e-mail that my AP and family members have been mailed.
LUD on AP Jan 23. AP on hand Jan.28.
The funny thing is,that as with EAD card,in a day after I subscribed for e-mail update with USCIS they send me e-mail that my AP and family members have been mailed.
LUD on AP Jan 23. AP on hand Jan.28.
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santb1975
05-29 12:30 AM
Let us keep going forward
knnmbd
08-10 02:04 PM
I told him that i have to make travel arrangements for the month of october.
He said to call back mid next week, if i didnot get the receipt by then.
Looks like they are having aggressive internal deadlines.
--sri
Look's like he just wanted to lose you.The receipt notice time lines are published. What the rep say means nothing
He said to call back mid next week, if i didnot get the receipt by then.
Looks like they are having aggressive internal deadlines.
--sri
Look's like he just wanted to lose you.The receipt notice time lines are published. What the rep say means nothing
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NKR
06-10 11:29 AM
Drunk With ImmigrationVoice. :D
Good one :)
Good one :)
Chiwere
08-20 05:57 PM
Yep, my email bounced back as well. Do you happen to have emails for the Director and the Dy. Director?
No, they prefer not to be contacted obviously. Googled a fax no though - Fax# 402-219-6171
No, they prefer not to be contacted obviously. Googled a fax no though - Fax# 402-219-6171
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for_gc
12-26 02:53 PM
Not sure good or bad. but this is sure some news.
gova123
08-02 05:41 PM
Bumping ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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dpp
07-06 12:15 PM
I have changed the thread title.
Thanks, i don't want to confuse, but i just put something to post it initially.
Thanks, i don't want to confuse, but i just put something to post it initially.
BharatPremi
11-09 02:12 PM
Thanks to the glorious service of the Atlanta center :mad: I missed the I-485 bus by 7 days( Labor cleared on Aug end ). Many people with later PD's got cleared from the Chicago PERM center . Now I just watch as all members get their EAD's and AP's while I wait with nothing but hope and watch legislation after legislation fail in the senate and house , and the letters flying all over the place .
I remember my past by reading your sad story. Though I had different cause for my tragedy. In Year 2000 November my then employer filed RIR labor and I got approval in January 12th 2001 and Same day HR filed my I-140. On January 22nd during companywide mass lay off I was slashed.. Again go through one more lay off in year 2002 with different employer and still waiting for GC(After filing 4th application in year 2003, Rotting in PBEC for almost 4 years)... Best Luck to you.
I remember my past by reading your sad story. Though I had different cause for my tragedy. In Year 2000 November my then employer filed RIR labor and I got approval in January 12th 2001 and Same day HR filed my I-140. On January 22nd during companywide mass lay off I was slashed.. Again go through one more lay off in year 2002 with different employer and still waiting for GC(After filing 4th application in year 2003, Rotting in PBEC for almost 4 years)... Best Luck to you.
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jonty_11
07-06 01:18 PM
Forgot in a hurry, it is updated now
no problem buddy, I just dont want u getting caught plagializing....just kidding!
Hope for thebest..I am hoping rumors abt accepting all July applications turn out true
no problem buddy, I just dont want u getting caught plagializing....just kidding!
Hope for thebest..I am hoping rumors abt accepting all July applications turn out true
learning01
04-25 01:56 PM
Let's talk about how backlog has affected us or our green card process. Let's discuss, write, post here about how to ask law makers to increase visa numbers for green cards affected by retrogression. Let's ask the USCIS to revert for concurrent filing. Write about these. Write letters to editors, to law makers, to companies. Let's stay focussed. Already there is the CIR is stalled for lack of agreement between Sen. Frist and Sen. Reid.
Let's take this PD definition discussion offline, as at present this is not a goal of IV. Am I correct?
The priority date based on the person first entering the US on H1B visa, or converting to a H1 status from any other visa status in the US is an excellent one.
This eliminates all the issues that H1Bs face today when applying for a GC. Employer portability, Visa retrogression etc ( and not to mention employer manipulation of H1Bs workers in delaying to file GCs ) are applied in fairness to everyone. This takes the fear out of H1B workers to change jobs at will without regard to negative impact on their pending GC applications..
Way to go.. Why can't IV propose to add this one liner to any of the impending amendments or find another lawmaker to support this which can alleviate most issues faced by H1Bs today.
Let's take this PD definition discussion offline, as at present this is not a goal of IV. Am I correct?
The priority date based on the person first entering the US on H1B visa, or converting to a H1 status from any other visa status in the US is an excellent one.
This eliminates all the issues that H1Bs face today when applying for a GC. Employer portability, Visa retrogression etc ( and not to mention employer manipulation of H1Bs workers in delaying to file GCs ) are applied in fairness to everyone. This takes the fear out of H1B workers to change jobs at will without regard to negative impact on their pending GC applications..
Way to go.. Why can't IV propose to add this one liner to any of the impending amendments or find another lawmaker to support this which can alleviate most issues faced by H1Bs today.
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viva
02-10 12:07 PM
Folks,
I know this has been discussed in the past on this and other message boards but I wanted to hear some more opinions about it. What is the value of green card to you?
I know different ppl have different reasons like ability to switch jobs, ability to travel freely, ability to have a job for spouse etc. All said and done how many of you would like to go back to your home countries in the next 5-6 years? I know a lot of people have issues such as aging parents back home or they simply don't see themselves living in a foreign land forever. I guess my question is what percentage of ppl aspiring for a GC view it as a convenience vs percentage of ppl who actually see it as a path to settling down in US for good.
Thanks
While I have been an ardent supporter of the IV core team, I have begun to reflect on why we are not reaching our required targets in contribution. I think there are two reasons. Firstly, we need to reveal how much money we need. This would give people an idea of how much is needed and how much needs to be contributed. Otherwise, people may assume that we are not spending their previous contributions wisely and are always asking for contributions. This becomes even more true because we do not have any actual results to show for our efforts. Ok, this in any way does not demean the efforts of the whole organization so far, but the world runs on results and judges you by it.
The second reason may the overzealousness with which logiclife posts his messages for contributions. While I understand his frustration, his overzealousness may be perceived as arrogance by some. Rather than sending e-mails and overzealous posts, we need to re-invent our strategy for seeking contributions. While I don't have the answers on what the right strategy should be, what we are doing right now is clearly not working. Perhaps, we can begin with logiclife toning down his overzealousness in his postings for contributions.
Just my two cents.....
I know this has been discussed in the past on this and other message boards but I wanted to hear some more opinions about it. What is the value of green card to you?
I know different ppl have different reasons like ability to switch jobs, ability to travel freely, ability to have a job for spouse etc. All said and done how many of you would like to go back to your home countries in the next 5-6 years? I know a lot of people have issues such as aging parents back home or they simply don't see themselves living in a foreign land forever. I guess my question is what percentage of ppl aspiring for a GC view it as a convenience vs percentage of ppl who actually see it as a path to settling down in US for good.
Thanks
While I have been an ardent supporter of the IV core team, I have begun to reflect on why we are not reaching our required targets in contribution. I think there are two reasons. Firstly, we need to reveal how much money we need. This would give people an idea of how much is needed and how much needs to be contributed. Otherwise, people may assume that we are not spending their previous contributions wisely and are always asking for contributions. This becomes even more true because we do not have any actual results to show for our efforts. Ok, this in any way does not demean the efforts of the whole organization so far, but the world runs on results and judges you by it.
The second reason may the overzealousness with which logiclife posts his messages for contributions. While I understand his frustration, his overzealousness may be perceived as arrogance by some. Rather than sending e-mails and overzealous posts, we need to re-invent our strategy for seeking contributions. While I don't have the answers on what the right strategy should be, what we are doing right now is clearly not working. Perhaps, we can begin with logiclife toning down his overzealousness in his postings for contributions.
Just my two cents.....
vayumahesh
11-09 08:50 AM
I need info from the experts here. I am thinking of going with interfiling process rather than wait for the USCIS system to identify the case as current. One issue with my case is I-140 attorney (company lawyer) is different from I-485 attorney (outside company). My company attorney has forwarded the copy of I-140 to my I-485 attorney. Is I-140 copy enough or must submit original with the interfiling process ?
The following thread in Immigrationvoice says, lawyer needs to send original I-140 with interfiling process.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum2-retrogression-priority-dates-and-visa-bulletins/17441-interfiling.html (response by sanbaj - The lawyer has to write a letter to USCIS along with the original approval notice of the newly approved but older PD I140. )
The following thread in Immigrationvoice says, lawyer needs to send original I-140 with interfiling process.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum2-retrogression-priority-dates-and-visa-bulletins/17441-interfiling.html (response by sanbaj - The lawyer has to write a letter to USCIS along with the original approval notice of the newly approved but older PD I140. )
franklin
04-26 10:43 AM
Will post on Nor Cal chapter group
jonty_11
07-05 05:11 PM
Call your state senators, it is effective that way.
already done that
already done that
usirit
11-18 12:06 AM
I am an H1B holder in Indianapolis, IN processing GC on EB3 -actually my EAD (PERM) is 'In Process'; my wife and 3 under age kids are H4s... a couple of months ago we had to update our address in our 2 DL & 5 IDs... of course I am the only holder of a SSN so no problems getting the renewal of my DL & ID. After getting a numident report from the SSA for my daughters and wife... there were no issues generating IDs for the kids... but according to BMV withouth a SSN my wife's DL won't be updated and it will be suspended in 30 days. How she got a license before (for 3 years) and now she can't...? Is there anyway to obtain a DL in Indiana being a legal H4? I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!
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