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  • ArkBird
    09-04 05:09 PM
    You are 100% right but no one thought their Labor/GC pain will last THIS long. The most unfortunate/unlucky part in this whole journey was 245(i) amnesty in 2001. This is a tsunami which choked the labor pipe (Remember the good old days of Backlog Reduction Center and quest for that elusive screen shot from the BRC for case? :) ) & imbalanced the demand/supply equilibrium for EB3. This is the reason the variable of priority date became constant and stuck to 2001..



    I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.

    This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:

    - They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.

    - Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.

    - Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.

    - People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.

    - Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.

    - If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.

    - Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.

    Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.

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  • chisinau
    07-23 02:46 AM
    My attorney told me that there is a chanse that they will be able to approve my DS230 this time, before the retro will hit us again in August. Hope his data is correct. Usually they need 5 - 8 weeks for DS230. And as far as I understand the process, they work with DS230 only if your PD is current, so until the 17-th of August we might hear some good news about DS230. But this is the only positive outcome of the July VB for us.
    If the October VB shows "current" for our PD we would have our appointment in consulate. Othervise, no GC in near future.
    From my point of view, the chanses to have our interview in october or november are slim. There is a lot of applicants in EB3 before us + I485 recent August approvals. Where they will find visas for AOS applicants? They have already waisted all visa numbers for 2007, but still alowing to file I485... About I485 I am not sure, correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, I believe that there will be severe retrogression begining from the next Fiscal Year.
    The only hope we have - is "bridge legislation" for schedule A. Without it even persons on advanced stages of CP will have to wait months or even years for the interview:::((((

    P.S.
    Just curious.:::))) Where are you from, peyton sawyer? Where in the US are you going to live? I am going to High Point, NC.




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    09-09 10:41 PM
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  • offohh
    08-02 05:21 PM
    This link which is giving prediction for Oct, 2007 looks totally off to me.

    if you see his EB3 predictions he is saying it will be close to to Jan 2007.

    Where in Jan 2007 EB3 China was Aug 2002 not April 2005.

    Don't know what is the reasoning behind these predictions.



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    07-14 03:59 PM
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  • arunmohan
    07-11 02:49 PM
    paskal, thanks for the reply. whats very frustrating for me is, these guys mess up so badly and they get away with no trace , we all know that this happened in the past and probably is happening currently too. All we are asking is a fair FIFO method and proper usage of visa numbers with transparency. The mere fact that they are not transparent raises many doubts in many minds. And these questions are not coming from those people who filed for their greecards an year or 2 ago..i just read a post in this same thread that this person has been waiting for his green card for 10 years...this is the height of ridiculousness and there is a limit for our patience, and this is it...

    Thanks Paskal, atleast he is going to ask from members of IV who are in touch with USCIS about EB3 situation. I will still urge to IV team to use FOIA to find out EB3 situation. We need to know the number because I know people who ever filed I-485 before Dec 31, 2004, most of them have received GC in June/July 2007.

    We don't know when this date is going reach 2003 or 2004 because it was stuck Nov, 200 before it became unavailable. Most of EB3 folks were and are entitle to EB2 but due attorneys and company's policy we filed under EB3. Since most of us are working on EAD and we cannot convert EB3 to EB2. If some one have option to convert from EB3 to EB2, we don't know how long it will take(due to backlog of I140) and what could be the endresult. We need to stand together and need to find a possible option to do something. Otherwise we are in deep mess and we will in deep mess after 2 years or 3 years.


    Please give us your feedback.



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  • GCVir
    07-28 08:36 PM
    Age Out Issue for filing I-485: Gurus, please advise me on the age out issue of my son.
    (1) Dates & Calculations effecting filing I_485: Here are the dates and the calculations I did which result in effective age of �21 yrs + 1 month + 1 day� thus making it Age-out issue for filing for I-485 for my son.

    (A) Priority date : Nov, 2005
    (B) I-140 receipt : 2/22/2006 I-140 approval : 3/22/2006
    (C) I-140 pending period : One month (too fast where it was not a help!)
    (I-140 was approved in my son�s 20th year � however, I learned that it is not of any help for filing his I-485)
    (D) Applied for I-485 (for rest of family � not for son) (Thanks to IV) : First week of July 2007
    (E) DOB of son : 3/30/1986
    (F) Currant age : 21 yrs + 4 months (Currently on F1 and doing his under grad in US)
    (G) Date to be considered for determining the age for filing I-485 : 6/1/2007
    (since the monthly bulletin is released on 6/12/2007)
    (H) Age as on above date (6/1/2007) : 21 yrs + 2 month + 1 day
    (I) Benefit from CSPA :(I-140) pending days (C) : 1 month
    (J) Effective age for filing I-485 during current window : (H) � (J) : 21 yrs + 1 month + 1 day
    (2) Since, he aged out for filing for I-485 (also based on attorney�s calculation), his papers were not included and only papers for rest of the family were filed in July, 2007. Friends, is there any other interpretation of CSPA � which could be helpful in this scenario?

    (3) Other Particulars (which could potentially offer any other solution / advice): I am from India and in US from sep 1998 (change of employer forced me to restart my GC process) and my son entered USA in Oct 1999 at his 13 � yrs and stayed continuously & studied in USA from 9th standard. Currently, he is in final yr of under graduate study and is on F1 visa from March 2007 (after completing 21 yrs) paying high (2.5 times the instate fee) international student fee.

    (4) Can I do any thing in the current window when dates are current (until 8/17/07): Friends, if there is any way of filing his I-485, it will be of great help � since he could continue his graduate study at reasonable cost (at instate tuition fee). Are there any other options in this situation? Is there any possibility of I-485 getting receipted (if filed) � since he is supposed to have his PD frozen for his application for family based I-485 at parent�s PD (if applied with in one year of parent�s I-485?) (I am referring to a clause in CSPA � which states that the application will automatically be converted to family based I-485 if applied with in one year � Of course, these dates are not current now).

    (5) I am not aware of how many others are affected with age-out issue in EB based cases. Can we come together through IV and identify potential action items? Can IV and immigration community help in addressing the age-out issue in bills proposed to be introduced (like DREAM / SKILL etc�) now on� (Particularly since the percentage of affected people may be very low with less voice that could be heard). I am thankful to IV & the core team for their extraordinary efforts and shall be contributing my part shortly.

    Sorry for the long note � I thought the complexity of the issue needs it.

    Thx GCVir




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  • NKR
    06-25 12:56 PM
    Fully agree with you.
    A thought comes to mind on reading your post.
    Is that what the average Amrican wants us to do? Do they want us immigrants to be kept away from participating in innovation? Do they want us to keep working mundane jobs? Do they want us to lag behind them?
    This is just a speculation no hard proofs but only a thought.


    Isn�t this what the American companies want?. They get qualified people who keep doing the same job for less and churning millions for the companies. Also, the big companies are fighting to get H1s quota increased, they do not care about whether these people get GCs are not, being in H1 for long serves them right.

    Isn�t this what many people here want?. They can boss over us for many years even if you are more qualified then them since you cannot change your profile.

    Isn�t this what the government want?. American companies are making money, many people are happy. Then why change the situation?.

    How much percent of the immigrants who get GC go on to become innovators and start their own company?. I would say less than 10%, that also could be a far fetched figure.

    America gains more than it loses.



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  • NKR
    06-10 11:29 AM
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  • gctest
    09-13 04:10 PM
    People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.

    Here is the form you can fill out to express support:
    http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pfq9i31UpaJcQdUK-1PaKcg&hl=en

    View the read only document here:
    http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pfq9i31UpaJcQdUK-1PaKcg&hl=en


    I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.

    If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.

    This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.

    These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.

    If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
    Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.

    This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.

    If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.

    I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
    But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.



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  • gcfriend65
    01-06 12:10 PM
    I totally agree with Prof. Wadwha, No-H1B and only EB legislation. Increasing H-1 B strikes same emotional poison in minds of Americans as foreigners taking
    local jobs and those jobs not going to the 'Sons of the Soil'.

    IV should only concentrate on EB legislation. Any steps towards H-1B will nullify all struggles towards EB.

    I have been confused by some of the things Professor Wadhwa says -- being opposed to H1 visas and saying there are no shortages of engineers. I saw this video on Youtube which explained everything to me. He is acting like a true American -- like we should once we become citizens. He is advising America on how they can stay competetive -- like all of us want for this great country. But he is also saying that the real solution is for America to welcome immigrants as permanent residents rather than on temporary visas.

    Now I understand his message -- if you want to bring in the best from all over the world, bring them here on green cards -- not H1 visas. I also read one of his interviews where he said he was concerned about how H1 workers were taken advantage of and how they lived in immigration limbo. He really does care about doing what is right for all of us.

    I totally totally agree with Professor Sahib! I wish the government listens to him. What he is saying is good for everyone. As Indians we want America to succeed and prosper and we want to be a big part of the reason they prosper.

    Please see this and give it a good review -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvqqYDmLgjY

    Gayatri




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  • bestofall
    07-15 11:51 AM
    I donate another $5 if we reach $2000.00 today.
    Total so far = $1170.00

    Thanks SkilledWorker4GC !

    Any one else would like to pledge just 5 $ when we reach 2000 $

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  • santb1975
    05-22 01:24 PM
    Thankyou. You are our first contributor after our relaunch.

    Wandmaker - I will add your name to the list tonight

    I just sent a check of $100 via online bill payment to IV. I've also set up recurring contribution checks of $25 every month beginning June. I strongly believe in IV's cause and hope that many folks will come forward. This is the time to act to help ourselves, otherwise we'll be left behind. Keep up the good work.




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  • mw_immi
    01-07 12:47 PM
    Just send your I-140 approved docs to the bank. I got the approval with my I-140 itself

    Who is your banker? I locked in my rate with BOA & after 4 months they say unapproved. I am on EAD (expired H1B and I-94), AOS pending. I gave I-140, I-485 receipt, EAD, attorney letter but nothing worked.



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  • nlssubbu
    07-24 07:41 PM
    I keep reading people getting emails from USCIS. I don't remember providing my lawyer with my email address? When/where do you provide the email address? Tx

    Please create an user id for you and add all the case numbers associated with you here:

    https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/index.jsp

    Whenever there is an update regarding the cases related to you, USCIS will send you an automatic mail.

    Thanks




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  • raj7480
    08-01 02:21 PM
    When you have these news articles ready...one of the easiest way to circulate them is using a news wire agency.

    I have used http://www.prweb.com/ before for my company news releases. It is free and if you want a broader reach pay $80. It is very effective.

    It is a good idea to release it when something related to immigration is going on in senate or house. During this time, all major news network pickup articles from these wires based on keywords like "immigration, border issue etc"

    So make sure you add appropriate keywords when you do the release.



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  • jonty_11
    07-06 04:35 PM
    they dont want any 485s coming in because they worked on a Sunday which (like this VB fiasco) is unprecedented..and they want to take OFF until Oct now.....




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  • adde72
    07-05 11:35 PM
    Dugg! and posted a comment...
    Please also digg comments.


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    eb3_nepa
    07-14 01:29 PM
    Do you know how to pay online from my bank account? I checked the contributions page, but it discusses about paying through Paypal (and for $100+).


    Simply send the check of $5 to Immigration Voice at the address listed in the first post as if you were paying a utility bill. That way your bank will send IV a check of $5.00 (or whatever amount you want it to) and IV gets the WHOLE $5 and no fees are deducted.




    andy007
    07-17 11:59 PM
    Once they accept I-485 in the system then they give us a Receipt#, with that Receipt we can file for EAD / AP (as long as your PD becomes available) then they will process your I-485, Just thinking.. what do you say guys ... Please lete me know.. Receipt Date Vs Visa Number ...

    Thanks



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