sam2006
09-15 01:23 AM
thanks Zappy pvhemanth :)
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unseenguy
02-09 05:01 PM
To summarize the root causes now that we discussed:
1. Parental interference to control their own child even after marriage. This is cause no 1 of this kind of tensions.
2. Immaturity on the part of children, to let their parents control their feelings. (This is partly due to in arranged marriages, children are closer to parents than the spouse in initial years). This is no 2 issue. Children simply fail to understand they are no more part of their parents family. I honestly feel these people are not really ready for marriage or understand what marriage is.
3. Money transactions. One side expecting money from other side which is not really acceptable. I will elaborate this point a bit more.
4. In cases of couples settled in US/UK, parents know that couples are making a LOT more than by Indian standards. Hence to secure their own old age comfort, everyone tries to exert influence.
On no 3, let us separate our "legal" obligations from "moral".
Morally it is right to send money to parents, but legally it is not. As you can strive but, you wont be fair to either set of parents. Hence I believe "money" should not be sent to parents. Your parents should have planned their own future, including humanitarian needs. Only if your other half agrees, then only you should send money. Otherwise, it is your and your spouse's money.
If your parents needed monetary support then that they should have made clear to other parents at the time of marriage. Not after marriage. If its a love marriage, then the boy/girl should have clearly told this requirement to the other half.
1. Parental interference to control their own child even after marriage. This is cause no 1 of this kind of tensions.
2. Immaturity on the part of children, to let their parents control their feelings. (This is partly due to in arranged marriages, children are closer to parents than the spouse in initial years). This is no 2 issue. Children simply fail to understand they are no more part of their parents family. I honestly feel these people are not really ready for marriage or understand what marriage is.
3. Money transactions. One side expecting money from other side which is not really acceptable. I will elaborate this point a bit more.
4. In cases of couples settled in US/UK, parents know that couples are making a LOT more than by Indian standards. Hence to secure their own old age comfort, everyone tries to exert influence.
On no 3, let us separate our "legal" obligations from "moral".
Morally it is right to send money to parents, but legally it is not. As you can strive but, you wont be fair to either set of parents. Hence I believe "money" should not be sent to parents. Your parents should have planned their own future, including humanitarian needs. Only if your other half agrees, then only you should send money. Otherwise, it is your and your spouse's money.
If your parents needed monetary support then that they should have made clear to other parents at the time of marriage. Not after marriage. If its a love marriage, then the boy/girl should have clearly told this requirement to the other half.
sanam9696
09-14 11:02 AM
Why this fight for EB2 vs EB3..
ideally GC should be given based on one's arrival in US or based on first filing of GC..irrespective of which category u r
keeping that in mind, it doesn't matter, if u r EB2 or EB3 or if u r porting the date..because in either way..one will get GC (luck is still a factor) based on number of years in US or years since GC process started.
given a chance and if permissible under the law, most of us would want to switch to EB1..or even change the birthplace..to avoid this mess..but then it is too difficult to switch to EB1 compared to switching from EB3 to EB2. one would always take the least resistive path and it is right as long as it is not illegal under the current law..(oh..no..don't talk about morality..because when personal interests are at stake..nothing matters..for most of us)
anyway..they have successfully created enough divisions among ourselves EB1,2,3...row...the bright side of eb3 to eb3 porting is..that everyone will become eb2 and then we will stand united..hopefully..but then we will have divisions..eb2 before this year..eb2 originally filed..eb2 with masters from us..eb2 with 5 yrs of experience..eb2 with two masters...eb2 with fair screen..eb2 with black skin..
we have been always like that..divided and self centric and we will remain so and that's why u can see those blood sucking idiots can kill as at their will because we are not indians..but..from up, bihar, gujarat..from castes..region.language..list is endless but then we have never learnt anything from history..that's why ruled by minorities for most of the years in last 2000yrs history..
ideally GC should be given based on one's arrival in US or based on first filing of GC..irrespective of which category u r
keeping that in mind, it doesn't matter, if u r EB2 or EB3 or if u r porting the date..because in either way..one will get GC (luck is still a factor) based on number of years in US or years since GC process started.
given a chance and if permissible under the law, most of us would want to switch to EB1..or even change the birthplace..to avoid this mess..but then it is too difficult to switch to EB1 compared to switching from EB3 to EB2. one would always take the least resistive path and it is right as long as it is not illegal under the current law..(oh..no..don't talk about morality..because when personal interests are at stake..nothing matters..for most of us)
anyway..they have successfully created enough divisions among ourselves EB1,2,3...row...the bright side of eb3 to eb3 porting is..that everyone will become eb2 and then we will stand united..hopefully..but then we will have divisions..eb2 before this year..eb2 originally filed..eb2 with masters from us..eb2 with 5 yrs of experience..eb2 with two masters...eb2 with fair screen..eb2 with black skin..
we have been always like that..divided and self centric and we will remain so and that's why u can see those blood sucking idiots can kill as at their will because we are not indians..but..from up, bihar, gujarat..from castes..region.language..list is endless but then we have never learnt anything from history..that's why ruled by minorities for most of the years in last 2000yrs history..
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jimytomy
04-23 08:58 PM
Any recent experiences guys????
It took 10 days for me . Filed in Feb 2011.
It took 10 days for me . Filed in Feb 2011.
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eb3_nepa
07-05 10:35 AM
Hello everyone,
This is what I have done today. Called up BOTH my Senators and My local Congressperson. First asked them the name of the Person in-charge of immigration. Then Faxed him/her a ONE page description of what has happened and Urged them to take action.
Please do the same with your local Lawmakers. I believe that if Enough people call and fax them, they WILL do something eventually. It's a NUMBERS GAME and only if enough people contact them will they budge.
Please contact your lawmakers with a Nicely typed letter explaining your current situation and what the USCIS has done.
This is what I have done today. Called up BOTH my Senators and My local Congressperson. First asked them the name of the Person in-charge of immigration. Then Faxed him/her a ONE page description of what has happened and Urged them to take action.
Please do the same with your local Lawmakers. I believe that if Enough people call and fax them, they WILL do something eventually. It's a NUMBERS GAME and only if enough people contact them will they budge.
Please contact your lawmakers with a Nicely typed letter explaining your current situation and what the USCIS has done.
vvicky72
07-15 10:28 AM
Thanks.
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sayantan76
01-05 11:21 PM
Ok then, why did you come to America to study at Duke? Why did you spend all this money? The reason our people invest crores of rupees in American education is that it is better.
You people seem to be too nationalistic. Even with the comments about quotas. Affiirmative action with 52% of all seats being reserved based on caste? You call this fair?
I dont think anyone is arguing that american schools are not good enough.......they certainly are - specially with the kind of tuition fees people pay to get into these schools. Besides - people coming here for education does not necessarily mean its better - lot of people come here for the international exposure - lot of good students from around the world do indeed congregate here for education - combination of good schools, openness, english as common language....all these have contributed to the historical greatness of america - does not make your motherland any worse!
Look at quotas as a way to bring in factors other than just your score in a standardized examination.......in India that factor might be caste - here it might be affirmative action in favor of some sections of society and other subjective factors like essays, letters recommendation, the fact that you were a cheerleader in high school etc.....look, i am not saying quotas is a great system - but all i am saying is that there are shortcomings in selection systems in schools around the world not just India.
You people seem to be too nationalistic. Even with the comments about quotas. Affiirmative action with 52% of all seats being reserved based on caste? You call this fair?
I dont think anyone is arguing that american schools are not good enough.......they certainly are - specially with the kind of tuition fees people pay to get into these schools. Besides - people coming here for education does not necessarily mean its better - lot of people come here for the international exposure - lot of good students from around the world do indeed congregate here for education - combination of good schools, openness, english as common language....all these have contributed to the historical greatness of america - does not make your motherland any worse!
Look at quotas as a way to bring in factors other than just your score in a standardized examination.......in India that factor might be caste - here it might be affirmative action in favor of some sections of society and other subjective factors like essays, letters recommendation, the fact that you were a cheerleader in high school etc.....look, i am not saying quotas is a great system - but all i am saying is that there are shortcomings in selection systems in schools around the world not just India.
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SkilledWorker4GC
07-15 04:51 PM
Can we send out an email to all 30k members asking for contribution to High Five funding drive? It is quiet possible that many might not have logged on since yesterday.
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sujijag
07-14 08:17 PM
Good Initiative. High Five :)
Here is my confirmation
Immigration Voice $5.00 07/18/2008 7YBXC-MCJPD
Here is my confirmation
Immigration Voice $5.00 07/18/2008 7YBXC-MCJPD
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kalyan
04-12 09:10 AM
There will be lot of LC's that will be coming up for sale or to lure employees since majority of the employees might have left Desi Consulting Cos becoz of the sheer amount of Dirt Practice, they do.
INS at some point of time should ban LC substitution. this is another mess that is a slow poison for retrogression.
INS at some point of time should ban LC substitution. this is another mess that is a slow poison for retrogression.
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Kodi
06-04 01:38 PM
company size, Ability to pay issues, H1B dependent company, If any greencard denials have happened in the past, degree+ experience issue, labor subs...
Thanks Pappu. I will check with my lawyer before we file.
Thanks Pappu. I will check with my lawyer before we file.
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nyte_crawler
04-25 11:33 AM
Coming in through H1 does'nt show your intention of becoming a permanent resident of this country. It only happens when the LC is applied. Although the entry date is an ingenious way, it will only create more issues. Now some one who comes in F1 can also ask for the same benefit when they move to H1, to take their entry date in F1 as their priority date. I believe the culprits are the labor substitution and the labor certification sales. Those are unfair. Stop labor substitutions, and if they need one, then use the 140 RD as the PD. That should solve most of the problems and people from using labor sub to jump the line.
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Macaca
06-18 10:51 AM
Please post your concerns in Employment Based (EB) Skilled Immigration Applicants (http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?boardid=1042&threadid=314286&boardsparam=Page%3D3)
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sandy_anand
06-16 12:58 PM
If you are stuck at Atlanta PERM backlog center , please email your case number and explain them that your application has been pending for a LONG time and request them to help us get out of this grave situation. Also, please post on this thread after you have sent an email so that others can be motivated to do the same. We need to send as many emails as possible to get any positive feedback. I know that DOL mentioned that they will start processing our applications soon, but we need to keep up the pressure from our end so that it has some positive effect.
I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...
Here is the info :
email : Perm.DFLC@dol.gov
Phone : 404-893-0101
Thanks
Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
Champak, I'm in the same boat as yours. Called the Atlanta number and left a message with my case number. My attorney sent an email this week. I have also asked my employer to do the same. Maybe I'll take your advice and send them an email too.
I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...
Here is the info :
email : Perm.DFLC@dol.gov
Phone : 404-893-0101
Thanks
Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
Champak, I'm in the same boat as yours. Called the Atlanta number and left a message with my case number. My attorney sent an email this week. I have also asked my employer to do the same. Maybe I'll take your advice and send them an email too.
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chanduv23
09-16 12:04 PM
Thank you Nagireddi and Nagaraj for those quick shots. It is definitely a good start. Folks, this is a long round, so please step up and fire your shots. While we are still waiting for the Guest lady/gentleman from the West Coast, please take your shots; everyone is welcome.
I will be stepping out for sometime so please be kind enough to bump this thread if it goes off screen.
Trying to bring legislative changes in the most powerful country in the world through grassroots movements is not an easy task and we are moving mountains here.
We appreciate each and every single contribution.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP - YOUR BIGGEST HELP AND SUPPORT IS TO MAKE THIS RALLY A SUCCESS
I will be stepping out for sometime so please be kind enough to bump this thread if it goes off screen.
Trying to bring legislative changes in the most powerful country in the world through grassroots movements is not an easy task and we are moving mountains here.
We appreciate each and every single contribution.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP - YOUR BIGGEST HELP AND SUPPORT IS TO MAKE THIS RALLY A SUCCESS
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GCBy3000
07-06 04:54 PM
nice and humourous. Very good.
coz we need some place to go for vacation ;)
coz we need some place to go for vacation ;)
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vunlucky
09-11 10:34 PM
Contributed $100 through google checkout.
Trying to send as many signatures as possible with a day or so.
Trying to send as many signatures as possible with a day or so.
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mirage
01-03 02:56 PM
I think it is the perspective that has changed. Until 2 years back we were ready to die to live in this country, we thought our country was crowded, polluted etc. etc. Things haven't changed much there. It's still same, criminals are still the most powerful, power, food & Shelter is still scarce, poor count hasn't decreased. It's just we are not seeing now 'the dark side of the moon'. There's no doubt our American dream is screwed up big time. We have ruined the best times in our lives. Out of these 1 million Visa holders, 1000's would have been entrepreneurs, artists, etc. etc. but this green card chase has beaten us down to H1B Visa holder forever.
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sumansk
09-10 11:34 AM
Hello Pappu,
Just contributed $100 for the cause.Not able to attend the rally due to personal reasons...But hearlty appreciate every one's efforts ..Keep it up Guys !! Thanks
Surendra K
Just contributed $100 for the cause.Not able to attend the rally due to personal reasons...But hearlty appreciate every one's efforts ..Keep it up Guys !! Thanks
Surendra K
andy007
07-18 04:32 PM
You will be able to see your actual RD in the reciept notice...Donot worry..
Can you please specify which numbe do we need to call & and what we need to enter (PD, I140, bla bla) to get the Receipt Date.......
Thanks
Can you please specify which numbe do we need to call & and what we need to enter (PD, I140, bla bla) to get the Receipt Date.......
Thanks
AMKumar
07-06 10:54 AM
Man, in frustration people do not even know what to say and what not! Be very careful of what you spin and what you say. From the looks of it, this stuff has every chance of spinning out of control and it may have already started the ball rolling.Think about it for a second!. Once it goes that way, trust me, we will all live to regret that.
Yes, DHS approved upwards of 25000 GCs over the weekend, leading up to July 2nd. And some people are pissed off at that, err..why?
Remember, those 25000 are one of us. Once,they too were in line for Labor certifications, I-140s, medical exams and all that crap. And some of them were in the so called "FBI Name check" black-hole for an extended period of time. We should be rejoicing in the fact that most of those backlogs got cleaned up. Instead we have people questioning the validity of those newly approved GCs.My dear friends, god willing, we will all have GCs one day and tell me, how would you feel if someone else comes screaming at you just because he did not get one too.
Putting a "security lapse" spin on this could be very dangerous and should be avoided at any cost. I hope one of those anti-immigrant lobbies do not pick it up and start running with that. I prey that they do not revoke those already approved GCs, because if they do, then those poor 25000 souls will go through much more agony than what we are going through now.
It's very tough to get the genie back in the bottle once it is out, so think before you start popping that cork.
~AMK
Yes, DHS approved upwards of 25000 GCs over the weekend, leading up to July 2nd. And some people are pissed off at that, err..why?
Remember, those 25000 are one of us. Once,they too were in line for Labor certifications, I-140s, medical exams and all that crap. And some of them were in the so called "FBI Name check" black-hole for an extended period of time. We should be rejoicing in the fact that most of those backlogs got cleaned up. Instead we have people questioning the validity of those newly approved GCs.My dear friends, god willing, we will all have GCs one day and tell me, how would you feel if someone else comes screaming at you just because he did not get one too.
Putting a "security lapse" spin on this could be very dangerous and should be avoided at any cost. I hope one of those anti-immigrant lobbies do not pick it up and start running with that. I prey that they do not revoke those already approved GCs, because if they do, then those poor 25000 souls will go through much more agony than what we are going through now.
It's very tough to get the genie back in the bottle once it is out, so think before you start popping that cork.
~AMK
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